tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post8239588908460550977..comments2024-03-29T11:29:58.276+09:00Comments on BigHominid's Hairy Chasms: Korea crosses a thresholdKevin Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-40878655454264299072017-03-11T19:57:57.605+09:002017-03-11T19:57:57.605+09:00I wrote:
"...better, and easier, to believe ...I wrote:<br /><br /><b>"...better, and easier, to believe the whole world is crazy than to accept that the person in the mirror is the one who needs help."</b><br /><br />Let me rephrase that:<br /><br /><i>better, and easier, to ACT AS IF the whole world is crazy than to accept that the person in the mirror is the one who needs help.</i><br /><br />I don't know what Park actually believes.Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-30074070711320991312017-03-11T19:54:46.435+09:002017-03-11T19:54:46.435+09:00I think Park had to have been at least partially i...I think Park had to have been at least partially in touch with reality if she felt the need to apologize (well... "apologize") at least once last year. She must have known she'd done <i>something</i> wrong, otherwise why feel the need to express regret? And it's even worse for her if she <i>deliberately</i> crafted her "apology" as a non-apology apology. That, to me, indicates cunning right there, and cunning implies knowledge because cunning folks use their knowledge to game whatever system they're in.<br /><br />I'm not totally rejecting the idea that Park might be delusional. She repeatedly proved to be tone-deaf, especially when it came to her repressive relationship with the press, so there's evidence she can be detached from the goings-on. But if we grant that she's truly delusional, then she's not morally culpable, which is a conclusion I can't accept. It's easier to think she's acting this way to save face: better, and easier, to believe the whole world is crazy than to accept that the person in the mirror is the one who needs help.<br /><br />I don't really have any sympathy for Park: she had to have known, going in, what it meant to be president of a country. It's not a position one enters into blindly. On some level, she must know that Choi-gate implicates her and not just her religious-weirdo friend. And in terms of allowing a political nonentity (Choi) to have access to thousands of pages of secret government documents... she had to have known this was a breach of national security. Yet she kept at it, which is why I wonder about mental compartmentalization.Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-91746695271240454262017-03-11T12:04:47.883+09:002017-03-11T12:04:47.883+09:00Also, clarification on my Sewol comment, which I j...Also, clarification on my Sewol comment, which I just reread: What the court said was that Park did not act as a president should during a crisis, but that her actions also did not constitute a crime under the constitution. My original wording was a little vague.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-60039590755245908822017-03-11T12:03:15.279+09:002017-03-11T12:03:15.279+09:00Can she really be that naive? Yeah, I kind of thin...Can she really be that naive? Yeah, I kind of think she can. Although I'm not sure if it is so much naiveté as it is utter delusion. Bottom line is that I'm not sure she's really clever enough to be that devious and deceptive.<br /><br />Your compartmentalization theory is interesting, though. I suppose it is a possibility, although in that case I would say that the part of her that believes she is wronged has tied up the part of her that doesn't and stuffed it in a closet.<br /><br />But who knows? This is all just speculation on what's going on inside her head, and it's unlikely that anyone but Choi knows what that is.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-3977850161876102562017-03-11T10:54:35.184+09:002017-03-11T10:54:35.184+09:00Motorrad,
I'm not hopeful.
Charles,
Park ha...Motorrad,<br /><br />I'm not hopeful.<br /><br />Charles,<br /><br />Park has been a politician for a long time. Can she really be <i>that</i> naive? I wouldn't dismiss the "really good actress" alternative, mainly because this society puts so much stock in <i>myeongye</i> and <i>chemyeon</i>. A lot of the theatrics we're seeing have to do with face and honor—how else can Park act? She's already tried the contrite thing with her non-apology last year, but now the rubber has met the road, and if she won't leave the Blue House willingly, she'll leave it forcibly.<br /><br />There's also the "Bill Clinton" explanation: Park's naiveté comes from a politician's ability to compartmentalize things in her mind. Part of her sincerely believes she's been wronged—but only part of her.Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-20612164431162511722017-03-11T06:38:44.130+09:002017-03-11T06:38:44.130+09:00I'm an expat living in Incheon and my fear is ...I'm an expat living in Incheon and my fear is that another North Korean stooge anti American leftist will be elected and Sunshine II will be implemented. To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, Now is not the time to go wobbly.motorradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956648409622151168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-4389463580168733812017-03-11T01:49:16.034+09:002017-03-11T01:49:16.034+09:00I'm not sure about the cynical gamble. I genui...I'm not sure about the cynical gamble. I genuinely think she is clueless, and if there was a gamble taken it was done so either at the advice of others or simply out of ignorance. If she truly believed that she did no wrong, is the gamble still cynical? I guess it depends on the object of that cynicism. But throughout the whole process she has had the air of one unjustly wronged. So either she truly does not get it, or she is a <i>really</i> good actress. I'm leaning toward the former.<br /><br />Also not sure about the lack of evidence argument. There was actually a ton of evidence that CSS was pulling the strings and using PGH for her own benefit, and that PGH was complicit in this. There was no evidence for the Sewol conspiracy theories, though, which is why that was the only charge the court struck down.<br /><br />I think your boss might be right about the unanimous decision. I should note that I have since read the judgment (or at least skimmed it), and if you read between the lines you can see that some judges felt a little more strongly about the decision than others. One judge appended a "supplementary opinion," stating that, "As this impeachment process is not an issue of conservative or liberal ideology but an issue of protecting Constitutional law, [we] had no choice but to find for dismissal in order to rid [our system] of corrupt political practices." (That's a pretty rough translation--the last part in particular, 정치적 폐습을 청산하기 위하여, was tricky.) I think it is telling that this opinion was only supplementary and ascribed to that one judge.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-67890619779919251572017-03-11T00:30:39.515+09:002017-03-11T00:30:39.515+09:00Yeah, I saw that comment. Funny.
My gut feeling ...Yeah, I saw that comment. Funny.<br /><br />My gut feeling all along has been that Park was guilty and needed to go, but the "lack of a preponderance of evidence" school of thought was eroding my confidence that she would end up removed from office, so this court decision came as a surprise. My boss wryly noted that none of the judges wanted to go down in history as the asshole who dissented, hence the unanimity.<br /><br />One part of me agrees that Park might not truly understand what she did wrong; another part thinks she knew enough to try the cynical gamble of throwing legal proceedings in the way of her ouster, hoping to play for time and end her term while still in the Blue House. (Of course, she could cynically gamble while still not understanding her own situation; that's certainly a possibility, but cynicism, as a rule, falls on the opposite side of the spectrum from wide-eyed innocence.)<br /><br />I don't know, and maybe now, it doesn't even matter. She's out.Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-13617925997760599162017-03-10T23:17:51.041+09:002017-03-10T23:17:51.041+09:00The French article is still, at the time of this c...The French article is still, at the time of this comment, incorrect; the one comment there so far basically says, "Maybe reread the title before publishing the article, hmm?" Heh.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the left is throwing a tantrum that Park didn't leave the Blue House <i>the exact second</i> that the decision was handed down. It is a bit odd that she hasn't said anything yet, though. I get the impression that she still doesn't understand what she did wrong. Throughout the whole thing, she struck me as someone who thought she was being wrongfully accused.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.com