tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post4229546498500890873..comments2024-03-29T11:29:58.276+09:00Comments on BigHominid's Hairy Chasms: "Star Trek Beyond": reviewKevin Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-43710499115515473412016-08-28T00:17:22.422+09:002016-08-28T00:17:22.422+09:00Charles,
"In brief, acting together in a coo...Charles,<br /><br /><b>"In brief, acting together in a cooperative and mutually respectful relationship is a <i>very</i> different thing from being part of a swarm."</b><br /><br />I'll gladly concede that point, but Krall's own analysis isn't that subtle: he specifically despises "unity," which means the irony still obtains.<br /><br />Also: the military/civilian contrast is definitely in play, as you say. But here, too, there's the troublesome idea that the Enterprise is, seemingly, built as much for war as it is for exploration and peace. Or maybe it's not so troublesome: there's nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst. As Q warned in a "Next Generation" episode, space is vast and not for the timid. In the meantime, I'll believe Starfleet is non-military once it drops ranks, discipline, weapons training, and chain of command. Chris Pike, in the 2009 movie, used the term "peacekeeping armada" to describe Starfleet. "Armada" suggests a military while "peacekeeping" suggests something more like the police. It's all very confusing.<br /><br />Question: why weren't Spock and McCoy blown up by the Beastie Boys attack? I thought about writing on this in my review, but I felt I might have missed some crucial detail that explained why their stolen ship was somehow exceptional. Was it simply that Spock told McCoy to "Evade!", thus distancing their ship from the music attack?<br /><br />(I can't believe I just wrote "music attack." That whole damn scene was corny. I'm guessing it was written by Pegg, not Jung.)Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-60829811797083607482016-08-27T23:39:56.944+09:002016-08-27T23:39:56.944+09:00Just saw this tonight as well. So much I want to s...Just saw this tonight as well. So much I want to say about your swarm comment, but it's time for bed. In brief, acting together in a cooperative and mutually respectful relationship is a <i>very</i> different thing from being part of a swarm. The relationship that Federation advocates is one in which everyone exists as individuals, and every individual respects every other individual. In a swarm, though, they are no true individuals--you either toe the party line, so to speak, or all hell breaks loose (as we saw).<br /><br />I think this respect for individuality is pointed up when Krall gets Sil (sp?) to give up the artifact by threatening Sulu. In a swarm, the individual is meaningless, as there are so many identical entities that the loss of a single entity is insignificant to the swarm as a whole. But Krall knows how the Federation works, and he sees it as a weakness.<br /><br />It's also interesting to note that Beyond also pits a military mindset versus a civilian mindset, with the military ending up being the bad guys.<br /><br />Anyway, just some very hurried and disorganized thoughts before heading to bed.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.com