tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post5087664054501229558..comments2024-03-29T11:29:58.276+09:00Comments on BigHominid's Hairy Chasms: verbal pretzelingKevin Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-69818502858273048632012-01-14T23:26:33.217+09:002012-01-14T23:26:33.217+09:00K-E translation often requires the dismantling of ...K-E translation often requires the dismantling of a complicated sentence from back to front. It sucks no less in translation, but at least you generally get a feeling of accomplishment out of it.Charleshttp://www.liminality.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-34974893431824539782012-01-14T21:40:33.404+09:002012-01-14T21:40:33.404+09:00Well, the evil author of this particular sentence ...Well, the evil author of this particular sentence is yours truly. While it didn't take that long to concoct the original version, I did have to tweak it several times.<br /><br />You're right, of course: it's not a reflection of realistic English, but it was never meant to be such. The GRE, in its new incarnation, is designed to make life a bit more difficult in an effort to separate the men from the boys so as to preserve a more or less standard bell curve: the previous version of the test had become too easy, which had resulted in a skewed curve.<br /><br />I didn't want to give the impression that <i>every</i> sentence in the new GRE looked like this, but it's no lie that there are quite a few such sentences in the test, especially in the Sentence Completion section.<br /><br />ETS has its own stable of evil geniuses who come up with these test problems, and all problems are run past committees to determine readability, a process that includes the use of test-taking guinea pigs to see how people perform. This latter process is, in fact, one way in which ETS determines the difficulty level of a given problem: the test-takers' performance statistics allow the test designers to assign each problem a weighted value. (Clusters of newly minted problems can be foisted upon <i>actual</i> test-takers in the form of "experimental" sections on the GRE.) That, in turn, is what makes every single test unique in how it's scored. It's a weird, alchemical process. I find it fascinating, despite my ambivalence toward standardized tests.Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5541500.post-74119667272707938832012-01-14T16:08:52.601+09:002012-01-14T16:08:52.601+09:00Wow! That sounds like something only people with ...Wow! That sounds like something only people with "forked" tongues, running for public office, or entrenched in academics would spout instead of the plain old English that most of us common folk speak and understand. It’s sort of like that Fuzzy Math/Logic and Partial Truths that are found everywhere on Wall Street and in D.C. that we also can't seem to quite wrap our simpleminded noggins around.<br /><br />I just wonder if that sentence has ever been uttered in an "actual" English conversation without having not been written down first. It also makes me question just how long the author of this sentence actually worked on concocting it in some subterranean basement there at GRE headquarters or maybe they take freelance submissions like some greeting card companies do.John from Daejeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08431973044799010218noreply@blogger.com